Wednesday, September 13, 2006

Southern Pacific Railroad Company (Texas), 1856

Is the Southern Pacific Railroad Company that existed in Texas in 1856 the same company that the CPRR merged with in 1959?

13 Comments:

Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: KyleWyatt@aol.com

My recollection is that it merged into some other railroad – maybe Missouri Pacific/Texas & Pacific, but I'm really not sure of that. Anyway, my recollection is that it did not go into the Southern Pacific that we all know and love. (Although it is possible that I'm mistaken on that, too.)

—Kyle

9/13/2006 10:18 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Chris Graves" caliron@cwnet.com

The SP did have Texas roots, however. Begun in 1850, the BBB&C (Buffalo, Bayou, Brazos and Colorado) was bought by the Galveston, Harrisburg & San Antonio Railroad, which in turn was purchased by the SP, making the BBB&C the oldest road acquired by the SPRR.

—Chris Graves

9/14/2006 12:13 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: kylewyatt@aol.com

Yep. Very true.

—Kyle

9/14/2006 12:15 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Wendell Huffman" wwhuffma@clan.lib.nv.us

... The CP was merged with the Southern Pacific Company in 1959. The SP Co had previously merged with the SPRR in 1955. That SPRR was the successor of six previous SPRRs running back to the SPRR of 1865, which was the consequence of a merger of the San Francisco & San Jose and the Santa Clara & Pajaro.

FWIW, I do not find a genealogy of the SP Company.

The SPRR of 1856 (chartered as the Texas Western 1852) was purchased by the Texas Pacific in March 1872, just months before the Texas Pacific became the Texas and Pacific (May 1872).

—W.

9/14/2006 4:41 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Don Snoddy" ddsnoddy@cox.net

Southern Pacific Railroad Company

Incorporated August 16, 1856

Acquired by construction 23 miles from Marshall to Swanson's Landing Tx. 1857.

This line partly torn up and route changed by Confederate soldiers the eastern terminus being Waskom, TX. Operated to Shreveport by trackage rights on the Vicksburg, Shreveport, and Texas Railway Company (aka North Louisiana and Texas RR) from Sept 1862. The VS&T was seized by the Confederacy in 1862 because the directors were pro-Union. According to Poor's Manual 1870-71 it was reorganized as the North Louisiana and Texas Railroad and had in operation 72 miles from Vicksburg. LA to Monroe, LA. "This road was destroyed during the late war, and has only recently been reconstructed. The Southern Pacific Railroad Company are building its continuation through Texas." Of the Southern Pacific Poor's says it was operating 56 miles from Shreveport LA to Hallsville TX. I find no reference to either the VS&T or the NL&T in the T&P corporate history. I am recalling the contracts for this lease from the records center. Perhaps that will shed some light on transfer of ownership.

On March 21, 1872 (original consolidation papers say "grant bargain, sell alien remise release assign transfer convey and confirm) the property, rights and franchises of this company were sold for $3,000,000 par value of land-grant bonds, the assumption of the State of Texas school fund loan of $250,000 and outstanding liabilities not exceeding $700,000 to (corp hist notes By Deed of consolidation March 21, 1872) to

Texas Pacific Railroad Company

—Don

9/14/2006 4:52 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

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9/14/2006 5:11 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Wendell Huffman" wwhuffma@clan.lib.nv.us

I don't see where the Southern Pacific Company fits in (distinct from Southern Pacific Railroad), nor for that matter the Northern Railway (which absorbed the Sacramento & Placerville). I don't think it was intended as all-inclusive.

—W.

9/14/2006 5:12 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: KyleWyatt@aol.com

Thanks to all. Always glad when my memory is confirmed. And special thanks to Don for the thorough writeup. Hopefully whoever asked the original question is now answered.

—Kyle

9/14/2006 10:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what happened to the capital stock holders of the origional sprr company when they merged? if someone did not trade in a stock certificate, what was the result?

9/25/2006 2:34 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Don Snoddy" ddsnoddy@cox.net
Subject: Capital Stock

There is a person at UP Corp who answers all these questions. To risk answering it otherwise, might cause problems. I'd refer them to the corporate secretary at UP Corp. Tom Whitaker could direct them to the proper person. (402) 544-5000 will lead them to an automated phone response where they can be directed to Tom.

—Don

9/26/2006 12:18 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Don Snoddy" ddsnoddy@cox.net

888-870-8777 will get the UP operator.

—Don

9/26/2006 6:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Southern Pacific Railroad Collection at UTEP
Posted by: "Clifford J Vander Yacht"

Special Collections Librarian Claudia Rivers announced that the index and finding aids for this SPRR collection is now available on the University of Texas El Paso (UTEP) web site.

Included in this 557-box collection are records from the El Paso Terminal, the Golden State Route and Dawson Branch in New Mexico, and the EP&SW-SP lines from El Paso to Tucson. From my railroad historian's viewpoint important parts of the collection include Contracts and Agreements (1880s-1950s) in great detail, and water service records of the Bonito Lake water supply and the 160-mile pipe line system that supplied water for steam locomotives across the Tularosa Basin. In general, these records include details related to subidiary companies such as Alamogordo Lumber Co. for issues addressed at the El Paso General Office.

Engineering records over time became somewhat mixed. Included are Bridge & Building, Roadway, Superintendent of Motive Power and so forth. There is an index by department.

Due to great size and complexity of this collection, it is available for study only at The Library UTEP at this time.

—Vernon J. Glover

[from the R&LHS Newsgroup.]

6/08/2008 8:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is soooo annoying when people try to explain the Southern Pacific Railroad of Texas and explain some other road that had the same or similar name. The road was founded the Texas Western in the 1850; and later named the SPRR of Texas. It was forclosed on in 59,61, and 67. The last sale was later removed from the history by a USSC 1881 decission. In 1872, T&Prr consumed this road along with two others. The road had a crazy history like no other road I have ever heard of.

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