Travel Clock
From: "Elizabeth Walker" pwpcompany@gmail.com
I have inherited a CPRR Travel Clock from my late Father - It is in a well worn (loose hinges) redddy brown leather travel case. The Watch/Clock is a 15 Jewel (2 adjustments) OCTAVA Swiss movement - engraved U.S.A.P 816321 - fully working (the winder drops out sometimes though (but pushes back in).
This is a very rare Central Pacific Railroad Travel Clock. See attached photos.
Would anyone be interested in purchasing the Clock ? ...
I don't know the provenance other than that the clock was part of my late Fathers Pocket Watch collection. He had travelled in both Canada and America so, I am not sure whether he purchased the Travel Clock on his travels or from somewhere in the UK.
The dial has CPRR printed on it (Central Pacific Railroad), it also has 8 days (8 days on one wind) and 2 red chevrons under the 12.
Engraved on the back it says - OCTAVA WATCH Co SWITZERLAND 15 FIFTEEN JEWELS 2 ADJUSTMENTS U.S.A.P 816321 (hard to photograph due to its position under the back lid hinge). There is also a number 47795 by the balance wheel. It could do with a watch maker to fix the winder in properly as it is detached, but winds and sets the hands when pushed in - The mechanism works perfectly.
I was hoping that you could give me some idea of its value as they are so rare that no-one I have asked has ever seen one coming up for sale. The watch movement itself though is worth over £100.00.
—John Walker
I have inherited a CPRR Travel Clock from my late Father - It is in a well worn (loose hinges) redddy brown leather travel case. The Watch/Clock is a 15 Jewel (2 adjustments) OCTAVA Swiss movement - engraved U.S.A.P 816321 - fully working (the winder drops out sometimes though (but pushes back in).
This is a very rare Central Pacific Railroad Travel Clock. See attached photos.
Would anyone be interested in purchasing the Clock ? ...
I don't know the provenance other than that the clock was part of my late Fathers Pocket Watch collection. He had travelled in both Canada and America so, I am not sure whether he purchased the Travel Clock on his travels or from somewhere in the UK.
The dial has CPRR printed on it (Central Pacific Railroad), it also has 8 days (8 days on one wind) and 2 red chevrons under the 12.
Engraved on the back it says - OCTAVA WATCH Co SWITZERLAND 15 FIFTEEN JEWELS 2 ADJUSTMENTS U.S.A.P 816321 (hard to photograph due to its position under the back lid hinge). There is also a number 47795 by the balance wheel. It could do with a watch maker to fix the winder in properly as it is detached, but winds and sets the hands when pushed in - The mechanism works perfectly.
I was hoping that you could give me some idea of its value as they are so rare that no-one I have asked has ever seen one coming up for sale. The watch movement itself though is worth over £100.00.
—John Walker
posted from CPRR Discussion Group at 1:42 PM
6 Comments:
CAUTION: Not a merchant endorsement – caveat emptor.
Perhaps someone at The Railroadiana Collectors Association or the National Association of Watch & Clock Collectors could help.
See related discussion.
From: "Kevin Bunker" mikadobear45@yahoo.com
I'll suggest it's not Central Pacific Railroad, but perhaps Canadian Pacific (although Canadian pacific has traditionally used "Railway" and "C.P.R." as its official name and abbreviation. Something about the character of the capital initials in the railroad name gives me some concern. The lettering style is inappropriate to the 19th or early 20th century and appears to have been added (note that the characters are not applied neatly in straight, level or horizontal form) and that there are periods missing in what would be a standard pre-1970s abbreviation. Forgive my bluntness, but we must all learn that there are fakes out there, and even longtime collector shave been fooled into acquiring them in years past or present.
Besides, a railroad company would not typically have its name or initials applied to a timepiece used by the traveling public. To railroad dining silverware, yes (usually) and sometimes silver service for dining an business cars, railroad-owned hotels, but to precious little else in the way of hardware.
—Kevin Bunker
From: "Chris Graves" caliron@att.net
That clock was patented in 1906, long after the CPRR name was dropped.
—Chris Graves
From: "Elizabeth Walker" pwpcompany@gmail.com
I think it must be the Canadian Pacific Railroad.
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