Monday, July 17, 2006

SP Engineering Corps

From: "Chris Graves"

You might enjoy this, taken about 1908, just West of NewCastle, California. The fellow in front of the buggy with a transit is Alfred D. Zander – 8-21-81/6-23-69. At the far right is Harold Tishman, 1885–?


S.P. Engineering Corp Newcastle. Courtesy G.J. 'Chris' Graves.
S.P. Engineering Corp Newcastle
Courtesy G.J. "Chris" Graves.


Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

The postcard uses the word "CORP" – does "S.P. ENGINEERING CORP" actually mean "S.P. Engineering Corporation" or "S.P. Engineering Corps"? (Google searches do not confirm either meaning of Corp/Corps associated with the Southern Pacific.) Was there ever a Southern Pacific Engineering Corporation?


Corps: "A separate branch or department ... having a specialized function."


Corp: "An abbreviation for the word corporation which is frequently used incorrectly in place of the word Corps."

7/18/2006 1:18 AM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...


I'm very confident the meaning is NOT "corporation," but just "corp" (pronounced "core") – thus your first definition above.


7/18/2006 5:36 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Chris Graves"

Corp as in core.


7/18/2006 5:42 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Wendell Huffman"

Doubtless it's just Latin (a language even engineers once knew), as in Corp of Engineers. Means body – as in Corpus Christi, or esprit de corp.


7/18/2006 5:57 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

That seems to be the consensus, i.e. that "corp" printed on the photo is an error, and the intended word is spelled "corps" (the English version of the Latin "corpus" which is why it ends in an "s") which is pronounced "core."

7/18/2006 6:00 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Lynn Farrar"

... I do recognize the name Harold Tishman, or was it Lishman? I worked at SP while Lisman/ Tishman was still in the drafting room.


7/19/2006 2:53 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: "Lynn Farrar"

There never was such a name as "SP Engineering Corps" or anything like it. The Engineering laddies were often referred to as the "engineering corps" but only in the generic sense. I was in the engineering corps in one sense, but officially I was always an SP employee assigned to the Engineering Department as a member of the Valuation Department which began life under he Executive Department until about 1940 when it was transferred to the Engineering Dept. After I retired as an employee in 1985 the Valuation Dept was transferred to the Accounting Dept.

—Lynn Farrar

7/19/2006 2:56 PM  

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