Saturday, March 31, 2018

Promontory Champagne Photo

From: "Kyle Wyatt" kylekwyatt@gmail.com

I am trying to identify as many people as possible in the famous Promontory "champagne" photo, in preparation for an article in an upcoming Trains Magazine issue. Attached is the National Parks guide to the people in the photo, with a couple of additions. Per the attached cropped photos, I am also trying to figure out who is with James Strobridge in the photo. My initial thought is that it might be the Casement brothers (the most logical Union Pacific counterpart to the Central Pacific's Strobridge) - but I have never seen any photos of the Casements without beards.

Thanks for any help you can give.

—Kyle Wyatt



I-227 - Russell - people identified - NPS-2 - with additions
Russell I-227 - people identified




I-227 Russell view - CSRM detail 1 - IDs
Russell I-227




Dan Casement, Russell
Dan Casement, Russell


Jack Casement, Russell 211
Jack Casement, Russell 211




Casements, maybe - I-227 East and West shaking Hand at Laying Last Rail - Oakland Museum crop

Casements, maybe - Russell I-227, East and West shaking Hand at Laying Last Rail


Dan Casement - I-137 Dan Casement and Clerks at Echo City - Oakland Mus H69-459-1956_13AR_3665_F2 crop
Dan Casement - Russell I-137, Dan Casement and Clerks at Echo City


Dan Casement - I-140 DT Casement and Friends, Echo - Beineke, Yale 1078112 crop
Dan Casement - Russell I-140, DT Casement and Friends, Echo


Dan Casement - S-331 Dan Casement, Echo - Oakland Mus H69-459-2271_13AR_3186_F2 crop
Dan Casement - S-331 Dan Casement, Echo


Jack Casement - I-59 Construction Train at End of Track Gen Casement's Outfit Gen in Foreground - Oakland Museum crop
Jack Casement - Russell I-59, Construction Train at End of Track Gen Casement's Outfit Gen in Foreground


Jack Casement - S-211 Russell - Casements Cars, Aspen - Oakland Mus H69-459-2190_13AR_2751_F2 crop
Jack Casement - S-211 Russell - Casements Cars, Aspen


Jack Casement - S-206 General Casement on horseback - Oakland Mus H69-459-2183_13AR_2734_F2 crop
Jack Casement - S-206 General Casement on horseback


Jack Casement and Frances Jennings Casement at wedding in 1857
Jack Casement and Frances Jennings Casement at wedding in 1857


General J.S. Casement
General J.S. Casement


Dan Casement
Dan Casement


Jack Casement - West1910VIIP805
Jack Casement



Russell I-227 d1Russell I-227 view - CSRM detail 1 - ID's


Russell I-225 Last RailRussell I-225 Laying Last Rail Promontory - Oakland Museum - ID's


Russell I-226 Officers UPRussell I-226 Officers of UP Rail Road at Ceremony of Laying Last Rail at Promontory - Oakland Museum - ID's


Notice: Kyle Wyatt has retired from the California State Railroad Museum, March 15, 2018.

7 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

From: "Patricia LaBounty" PLABOUNT@UP.COM

Re:
Jack Casement - Russell, plate 211
Dan Casement - Russell

The figure on the right could be Dan Casement - they look very similar. The left-hand figure is a bit harder to say is Jack Casement. height seems about right. Both are standing on the rail and up an embankment. Both of these guys were just a little over 5 ft. tall.

—Patricia LaBounty, Curator
Union Pacific Railroad Museum
200 Pearl Street
Council Bluffs, IA 51503

5/19/2018 7:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From: "Kyle Wyatt" kylekwyatt@gmail.com

Following up on the possibility that the Casement brothers are with Strobridge in the photo, here is what I have on comparative images. Not conclusive in my mind, but still a fair possibility.

—Kyle

5/19/2018 7:44 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Kyle
Did you ever resolve the Casement question?
Bob

1/06/2019 1:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From: "Kyle Wyatt" kylekwyatt@gmail.com

It is clearly not the Casements (they both had beards on May 10, per other photos) - but I do not know who it is.

1/08/2019 10:10 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

If you look at A. J. Russell's May 10, 1869 image of the "engineers" next to the UP coach after the ceremony, the one without wives, it may provide a clue. In the Leonard collection at University of Iowa that image has scribbled on the back "Saml B Reed with Engnrs to Right and Contractors to Left." Reed is in the center with consulting engineer Seymour at his immediate right and chief engr. Dodge next to him. On the left, the last contractors in the row may be the bearded Casement brothers. If you look at the 2d and 4th contractors to the left of Reed they have a marked resemblance to the two individuals next to Strohbridge in the "champagne photos." Who are they, yo no se.
Bob Spude

1/17/2019 5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From: "Kyle Wyatt" kylekwyatt@gmail.com

I don't think the clothes in the Engineers view are right for our UP men with Strobridge in the Champagne Photo. (Also in the Champagne Photo, I no longer [think we] have a Shoshone Chief – in a clearer copy it turns out to be clothing, not hair pony tails.) Our UP Mystery Man also appears standing on the steam chest of UP loco #119 in a number of photos – not sure where his friend is in those photos. I believe the Casement brothers also show up in one of those photos – clearly bearded on that day.

For info, I have retired from the California State Railroad Museum.

—Kyle Wyatt

1/19/2019 11:11 AM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Hi Kyle
Congratulations on the retirement.

I looked again, and if you look at the photo of engineers, this time the one with the wives, the gentlemen behind the two women on the right has the same tie, hat, and more closely resembles the unknown person in the champagne photo.

Its easy to call up and enlarge the image on the Oakland Museum web page.
Bob

1/20/2019 3:56 PM  

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