Monday, July 18, 2005

Question: What's at Lucin Today?

From: pravoslavna@comcast.net

Do the Central Pacific (SP) and Western Pacific routes still split in the viscinity of Lucin?

Anyone know what the UP's operating practice is on using the Western Pacific vs. the CP/SP routes between Lucin and Winnemucca, and between Winnemucca and the West Coast?

–Abram Burnett

4 Comments:

Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: Bob_Spude@nps.gov

... We tried to find the original Lucin, but could not. The 1869 list of structures shows a section house and water tank there. We did find Terrace, Kelton and other sites along the old transcontinental route, which BLM manages as a scenic byway and has a number of interpretive signs along the way. The roadbed is a rough dirt track today, which is relatively easy to follow – but slow going. I expect there is nothing at original Lucin besides foundations.

The Lucin siding of today is on the Lucin cutoff, which starts a little to the West at Umbria Junction and is a busy mainline. There is a well graded and signed road off US 30 to Lucin, which can be seen for quite a distance because of the tall green trees around the track side pond – a green respite in a rather bleak landscape.

Sorry, can't help with the last question.

Bob


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7/19/2005 11:56 AM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: littlechoochoo81@netzero.net

The Western Pacific diverged from the SP route at Wells, Nevada. Actually the paired track agreement was between Weso, outside of Winnemucca, to Alazon, just west of Wells. As a general rule the Union Pacific would route TOFC-COFC traffic via the SP route. But if the lake is acting up they might detour on the WP line. The BNSF has a trackage right from Colorado to Sacramento but they are confined to the WP line which is more than 100 miles longer than SP from Utah to California. Freight drags such as coal probably go via the WP route but I'm not sure after 1996.

—Lynn Farrar

7/19/2005 12:12 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: pravoslavna@comcast.net

Bob Spude & Co found Kelton, Terrace and other places !  Bully for you chaps for going out and lookin' !
 
Bob, can you post the GPS coordinates for these places?  I'd like to locate them on USGS topo maps, using the GPS/Latitude/Longitude features of the Mapquest website.
 
Thanks,

—Abram Burnett

7/19/2005 1:29 PM  
Blogger CPRR Discussion Group said...

From: Bob_Spude@nps.gov

The best guide is a book titled "Rails East To Promontory, the Utah Stations" by Anan S. Raymond and Richard Fike (Salt Lake City: Bureau of Land Managment, 1994 edition). It includes descriptions, photographs, locations (section or partial within township and range), and brief histories. You can call BLM for a copy at 801-977-4300, pick one up at their Salt Lake office, or at Golden Spike National Historic Site (435-471-2209). This is a government report so a worthy candidate for putting up on the CPRR web page ...

Bob

7/20/2005 4:14 PM  

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