Friday, February 18, 2005

Re: Lower Cascade Bridge

Some further information, from Kraus "High Road to Promontory", p 308 - list of stations and milage. Cisco is listed as milepost 92 (calculated from Sacramento, not from San Francisco as was later the standard). At milepost 98, 6 miles about Cisco, is Mountain Mill, presumably today's Troy. Lower Cascade Bridge is listed as milepost 98.5, and Upper Cascade Bridge is listed as milepost 99. Again, that seems to confirm the drainages mentioned below. [See a] map showing the bridges and Troy.

Kyle

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Kyle K. Wyatt
Curator of History & Technology
California State Railroad Museum

Re: Lower Cascade Bridge

Checking a 1953 copy of "Southern Pacific circular 4, List of Officers, Agencies, Stations, Etc." I find Cisco listed as milepost 180, and Troy listed as milepost 186. Turning to Maptech which has digital parts of topo maps, I entered Cisco, California, and then followed the railroad line East. Just past Troy (maybe a mile) were the two drainages mentioned, Cascade Lake and Kidd Lake, with bridges shown. Sounds consistant with Wendell's locating them 7 miles above Cisco. Note the maps can be enlarged or reduced in scale. Also they can be right-clicked and saved as a jpeg.

Kyle

Note my NEW address of kwyatt@parks.ca.gov

Kyle K. Wyatt
Curator of History & Technology
California State Railroad Museum

Re: Lower Cascade Bridge

Well, I hope you get a better reply than this. My timetable shows "Cascade" as seven miles above Cisco. But I have no idea the relationship of that "station" to the bridges.

A list of bridges dated 25 January 1869 records that the upper and lower Cascade bridges each had 204-foot spans, with the over all length of lower Cascade 364 feet and the upper one 244 feet. But nothing was said about the name of the water courses they crossed. Perhaps the length of crossing will help you pin down just which were the bridges you see on the map. BTW, the next bridge west of lower Cascade was Secret Town, while the next one east of the upper bridge was South Yuba.

Wendell

Question: Lower Cascade Bridge

From: "M.W. Ficklin" terrulian@nccn.net

Can you give me the locations of Upper Cascade and Lower Cascade Bridges (between Cisco and Summit)?

Or to put it simply, can you confirm that Lower Cascade Bridge crosses the Cascade Lake drainage and that Upper Cascade Bridge crosses the Kidd Lake drainage?

I am referring to the lakes as shown on USGS Soda Springs 15' quadrangle.

So far I haven't found a CPRR or SP map that shows them as named.

(I am writing an article about the history of the area around what I believe to be Lower Cascade Bridge. I have photographed it and its surroundings. It would be embarrassing to be writing about the wrong bridge! )

Thanks for any help you can give.